The Arnolds of Bagbere, co. Dorset
Arnolds of Bagbere Manor, Milton Abbas, co Dorset
Richard Arnold, of Bagber Manor, Milton Abbas, ob. 1595, buried at Milton Abbey. He inherited in 1588 a moiety of the Manor of Armswell, in the parish of Buckalnd Newton, in right of his wife Mary Horsey, she was the daughter of Sir John Horsey, of Clifton Maubank, and sister and co-heir of her brother Sir John Horsey: by whom he had issue among other,
Grace, b. 1570
Robert the eldest, of Armswell:
Henry, of Ilsington Manor.
Grace, b. 1570
Robert the eldest, of Armswell:
Henry, of Ilsington Manor.
There can be no doubt that if Richard Arnold, who in the year 1570 purchased Bagbere Manor, was not the son "Richard. living 1580.' he was at least a near relative, a cadet of the Welsh family of which John Arnold was the head, and this consanguinity was allowed in the grant of arms to the Northampton branch.
The Rev. John Hutchins, in 'History of Dorset,' writing of the Arnolds of Ilsington Manor, states "There was another branch of this family residing at Ármswell Manor in Buckland Newton, but we have a very imperfect account of 'that branch, or of those of Alton Pancras and Bagbere, but they are certainly of the same family': and he cites on proof of this, that Henry Arnold of Ilsington and Bagbere, by his will dated 1643, appoints his executors 'My loving brother John. of Alton Pancras, and my cousin Robert Arnold, Rector of Melcombe", of the Armswell Manor branch.
As stated, Richard Arnold purchased Bagbere Manor, Milton Abbas, in the year 1570, and his son Robert sold it in 1613 to John Tregonwell, but from the latter it was leased the same year by Henry Arnold of Ilsington Manor, and held by his descendants for many generations, they being always described as 'the Arnold's of Bagbere Manor", ect. For many years also the Arnolds of both branches were buried at Milton Abbey, partly no doubt as owners of Bagbere, and partly on account of the importance of the Abbey as a burying place in that neighbourhood.
The Rev. John Hutchins, in 'History of Dorset,' writing of the Arnolds of Ilsington Manor, states "There was another branch of this family residing at Ármswell Manor in Buckland Newton, but we have a very imperfect account of 'that branch, or of those of Alton Pancras and Bagbere, but they are certainly of the same family': and he cites on proof of this, that Henry Arnold of Ilsington and Bagbere, by his will dated 1643, appoints his executors 'My loving brother John. of Alton Pancras, and my cousin Robert Arnold, Rector of Melcombe", of the Armswell Manor branch.
As stated, Richard Arnold purchased Bagbere Manor, Milton Abbas, in the year 1570, and his son Robert sold it in 1613 to John Tregonwell, but from the latter it was leased the same year by Henry Arnold of Ilsington Manor, and held by his descendants for many generations, they being always described as 'the Arnold's of Bagbere Manor", ect. For many years also the Arnolds of both branches were buried at Milton Abbey, partly no doubt as owners of Bagbere, and partly on account of the importance of the Abbey as a burying place in that neighbourhood.
Bagbere, a tithing in the parish of Sturminster-Newton-Castle, Dorset, 1 mile N of Sturminster.
Bagber is a hamlet in the county of Dorset in southern England, situated about 2 miles (3.2 km) west and northwest of Sturminster Newton in the North Dorsetadministrative district. It consists of Bagber, Lower Bagber and Bagber Common, which all lie within Sturminster Newton civil parish. Chapel Row consists of around 10 houses in total, 6 of them being within 300 metres of the main A357. These six date back to the 19th century with the chapel now being now no. 6.
The poet William Barnes was born in Bagber in 1801.
BAGBER MANOR HOUSE DORSET
The Victorian style Manor Farm at Bagber was rebuilt in 1889, the original manor house the ancestral home of The Arnold Family was a Tudor Manor House possibly dating to 1495. The original house was destroyed by fire before 1889.
Stallbridge Lane Bagber Dorset
Stallbridge Lane Bagber Dorset
‘ THE HAUNTED HOUSE’ THE MANOR HOUSE OF BAGBER
Part 1: My Early Years in the Dorset of William Barnes
By Hilary Townsend
William Barnes was a famous Dorset poet, he grew up in Bagber, his father was born at the manor house in Bagber.
From William Barnes: ‘ My father was born at the Manor Farm, Bagber, a hamlet near Sturminster Newton in North Dorset.’
The place features in William Barnes’s poetry as `The Haunted House`. It was a remarkable Tudor building, since rebuilt, beside the halter path leading from Stalbridge to Sturminster Newton in North Dorset.
`The Manor Farm, Bagber` my father said proudly is next to William Barnes`s `Pentridge by the River` and then I learnt that Barnes’s `Uncle and Aunt`, pictured so affectionately in the poems, had been our kinsfolk.
From an article in Dorset Life Magazine
What remains then of the landscape beloved of William Barnes?
I went to see it, to look again at the halter path from Stalbridge to Sturminster Newton, although I have not been able to bear going to Cutt Mill since the fire that destroyed the old mill house.
My father was born at Manor Farm, Bagber (now called the Manor House), and I have a photograph on the stairs at home of that old place. It was taken by Rev. Miles Barnes, William’s son, in 1883 when he was taking his father to re-visit the scenes of his childhood. It shows a long, low, 16th-century house. Sadly, after a fire, the house had to be re-built and is now a Victorian house whose windows are edged with the yellow brick much used by the Westminster Estate at the time.
The halter path now is shaded by big trees, making the old path look dim and mysterious. The big difference, though, is that the elms are gone. There are a few dead ones at the Stalbridge end of the path, but that is all that remains of those noble trees. However, ash trees flourish almost as if they realise they have to take the place of Barnes’s ‘elems’. I was delighted to see some well-grown sycamores among the other trees and, as my visit was still in June, it was ‘when sycamore leaves were a-spreaden green-ruddy in hedges’ as they did in the opening lines of ‘Woak Hill’.
“The road from Stalbridge to Sturminster Newton passes by Bagber, where William Barnes spent his early days. He was educated at the day school at Sturminster, so that the road between the farm and the school must have been very familar to him, as he trudged every day. Somewhere along the road was a a haunted house, about the locality of which the poet provided no information beyond that “a dark and gloomy lane led to it.” He seems- in one of his visits to the old home – to have pointed out the spot to his grandchildren. “That was the lane… your grandfather was riding down when all at once he saw the ghost in the form of a fleece of wool, which rolled along mysteriously by itself till it got under the legs of his horse; and the horse went lame from that hour and for ever after.”
Part 1: My Early Years in the Dorset of William Barnes
By Hilary Townsend
William Barnes was a famous Dorset poet, he grew up in Bagber, his father was born at the manor house in Bagber.
From William Barnes: ‘ My father was born at the Manor Farm, Bagber, a hamlet near Sturminster Newton in North Dorset.’
The place features in William Barnes’s poetry as `The Haunted House`. It was a remarkable Tudor building, since rebuilt, beside the halter path leading from Stalbridge to Sturminster Newton in North Dorset.
`The Manor Farm, Bagber` my father said proudly is next to William Barnes`s `Pentridge by the River` and then I learnt that Barnes’s `Uncle and Aunt`, pictured so affectionately in the poems, had been our kinsfolk.
From an article in Dorset Life Magazine
What remains then of the landscape beloved of William Barnes?
I went to see it, to look again at the halter path from Stalbridge to Sturminster Newton, although I have not been able to bear going to Cutt Mill since the fire that destroyed the old mill house.
My father was born at Manor Farm, Bagber (now called the Manor House), and I have a photograph on the stairs at home of that old place. It was taken by Rev. Miles Barnes, William’s son, in 1883 when he was taking his father to re-visit the scenes of his childhood. It shows a long, low, 16th-century house. Sadly, after a fire, the house had to be re-built and is now a Victorian house whose windows are edged with the yellow brick much used by the Westminster Estate at the time.
The halter path now is shaded by big trees, making the old path look dim and mysterious. The big difference, though, is that the elms are gone. There are a few dead ones at the Stalbridge end of the path, but that is all that remains of those noble trees. However, ash trees flourish almost as if they realise they have to take the place of Barnes’s ‘elems’. I was delighted to see some well-grown sycamores among the other trees and, as my visit was still in June, it was ‘when sycamore leaves were a-spreaden green-ruddy in hedges’ as they did in the opening lines of ‘Woak Hill’.
“The road from Stalbridge to Sturminster Newton passes by Bagber, where William Barnes spent his early days. He was educated at the day school at Sturminster, so that the road between the farm and the school must have been very familar to him, as he trudged every day. Somewhere along the road was a a haunted house, about the locality of which the poet provided no information beyond that “a dark and gloomy lane led to it.” He seems- in one of his visits to the old home – to have pointed out the spot to his grandchildren. “That was the lane… your grandfather was riding down when all at once he saw the ghost in the form of a fleece of wool, which rolled along mysteriously by itself till it got under the legs of his horse; and the horse went lame from that hour and for ever after.”
From:
THE LIFE OF WILLIAM BARNES POET AND PHILOLOGIST
BY HIS DAUGHTER LUCY BAXTER 1887
. [CH. xvn.
XVIL] THE GRANDFATHER. 305
"On most of our expeditions we passed over ground very familiar to him, and his remarks as he passed each well-known spot, showed how he was being carried back into the dim past, and how he was picturing the scenes as they once were, recalling voices which had been long silent, and persons who had long gone to their rest, and of whom the present generation knows nothing. I cannot recall his exact words, though I remember quite well the general sense of his remarks. ' Here is Elbow field ; just step over the fence, and you will see that it is in the form of a man's elbow. How often I have come
down here to play with ; and yonder I used to take my books and sit under the tree there. It is not much altered. Further on to the left, my uncle lived, there was his farm. Yes, but the old house is gone ; that must be a new one. Here a little sadness came over his face; then, ' Now we shall come to my favourite walk. Here it is ! this shady lane ; but there are fewer trees than there used to be ; there were once fine elms overshadowing the lane. Ah ! and the banks ! how many wild flowers used to grow upon them.'
" We went on to the ' Haunted House,' which seemed very attractive to him. A dark and gloomy lane ran towards it. Father's face beamed with old memories. ' That was the lane your great-grandfather was riding down, when all at once he saw the ghost in the form of a fleece of wool, which rolled along mys teriously by itself, till it got under the legs of his
horse; and the horse went lame from that hour and for ever after/ he concluded, with a humorous twinkle in his eyes." He was very anxious to obtain a photograph of that house, and even a few weeks before his death, asked his son if he had yet got the " sun-picture " of the "Haunted House ? "
THE LIFE OF WILLIAM BARNES POET AND PHILOLOGIST
BY HIS DAUGHTER LUCY BAXTER 1887
. [CH. xvn.
XVIL] THE GRANDFATHER. 305
"On most of our expeditions we passed over ground very familiar to him, and his remarks as he passed each well-known spot, showed how he was being carried back into the dim past, and how he was picturing the scenes as they once were, recalling voices which had been long silent, and persons who had long gone to their rest, and of whom the present generation knows nothing. I cannot recall his exact words, though I remember quite well the general sense of his remarks. ' Here is Elbow field ; just step over the fence, and you will see that it is in the form of a man's elbow. How often I have come
down here to play with ; and yonder I used to take my books and sit under the tree there. It is not much altered. Further on to the left, my uncle lived, there was his farm. Yes, but the old house is gone ; that must be a new one. Here a little sadness came over his face; then, ' Now we shall come to my favourite walk. Here it is ! this shady lane ; but there are fewer trees than there used to be ; there were once fine elms overshadowing the lane. Ah ! and the banks ! how many wild flowers used to grow upon them.'
" We went on to the ' Haunted House,' which seemed very attractive to him. A dark and gloomy lane ran towards it. Father's face beamed with old memories. ' That was the lane your great-grandfather was riding down, when all at once he saw the ghost in the form of a fleece of wool, which rolled along mys teriously by itself, till it got under the legs of his
horse; and the horse went lame from that hour and for ever after/ he concluded, with a humorous twinkle in his eyes." He was very anxious to obtain a photograph of that house, and even a few weeks before his death, asked his son if he had yet got the " sun-picture " of the "Haunted House ? "
British History Online:
¶(65) Bagber Manor House (76851555) was burned down and rebuilt in 1889, but a carved stone Cartouche-of-arms(Plate 48) from the former house is reset in the new building. On the shield, the arms of Shirley of Staunton Harold impale another coat (unidentified 14), under a helm with elaborate mantling and a Saracen's head crest. Surrounding the cartouche is an architrave with enriched mouldings and eared corners above and below. The cartouche is probably of the first half of the 17th century. Reset below is another stone with the date 1599 boldly carved.
¶(65) Bagber Manor House (76851555) was burned down and rebuilt in 1889, but a carved stone Cartouche-of-arms(Plate 48) from the former house is reset in the new building. On the shield, the arms of Shirley of Staunton Harold impale another coat (unidentified 14), under a helm with elaborate mantling and a Saracen's head crest. Surrounding the cartouche is an architrave with enriched mouldings and eared corners above and below. The cartouche is probably of the first half of the 17th century. Reset below is another stone with the date 1599 boldly carved.
My direct ancestors were the Arnold Family of Abbotsbury, co, Dorset.
Family history research of the Arnold, Horsey, Squibb, Gillet, and other associated families of the Arnold's of Dorset
by Sheridon Rayment 2019
Family history research of the Arnold, Horsey, Squibb, Gillet, and other associated families of the Arnold's of Dorset
by Sheridon Rayment 2019